After nearly a year of inactivity on the 30mm ECW project, the foundry churns out four artillery pieces. For a project that I consider "done and dusted," ten months between additions is not concerning. In fact, I considered the existing four guns and one mortar sufficient for most ECW battles. Rarely have I needed more than two guns per side.
My position on this sufficient gun requirement was nudged in the direction of fielding a few additional pieces when I discovered two packs of Old Glory guns in The Lead Pile. One pack contained two culverins; the other, two demi-culverins. The conundrum faced was that there was no crew. Do I allow these four guns to languish in The Lead Pile or buy crew for these pieces. Of course, I opted to add sixteen crew to the shopping list. Hardly a surprise.
While crew from the existing guns were all sourced from Redoubt (which I love), this time I chose to give Bicorne Miniatures ECW artillerymen a try. I have always read that Redoubt and Bicorne are a good match size-wise, so I plunged in to verify for myself. For size with respect to height and heft (remember the Barrett Scale, anyone?), Bicorne figures compare favorably to Redoubt. I still think I prefer the Redoubt artillery crew.
Anyway, off the painting desk come four guns and crew. The guns are Old Glory and the crew, Bicorne. Two culverins and two demi-culverins to add to the artillery arsenal of both sides.
Enough Renegade Miniatures' foot remain to field one more 27 figure regiment of foote. One day, I may get around to clearing out that bin and pushing them into the painting queue. Beyond those figures, only a scattering of casualty figures and some TAG horse remain to paint. Since the TAG cavalry are of the slightly earlier Thirty Years War period, I have been in not much hurry to paint them, but I will!
While crew from the existing guns were all sourced from Redoubt (which I love), this time I chose to give Bicorne Miniatures ECW artillerymen a try. I have always read that Redoubt and Bicorne are a good match size-wise, so I plunged in to verify for myself. For size with respect to height and heft (remember the Barrett Scale, anyone?), Bicorne figures compare favorably to Redoubt. I still think I prefer the Redoubt artillery crew.
Anyway, off the painting desk come four guns and crew. The guns are Old Glory and the crew, Bicorne. Two culverins and two demi-culverins to add to the artillery arsenal of both sides.
Enough Renegade Miniatures' foot remain to field one more 27 figure regiment of foote. One day, I may get around to clearing out that bin and pushing them into the painting queue. Beyond those figures, only a scattering of casualty figures and some TAG horse remain to paint. Since the TAG cavalry are of the slightly earlier Thirty Years War period, I have been in not much hurry to paint them, but I will!
Rather splendid pieces and a fine way to enter the final stages of a project. The red and brass combo make for a very attractive gun and the crew, in keeping with many figures from this period are very characterful. I would imagine that these were quite enjoyable to paint.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Norm! The guns and crew were an enjoyable diversion. Easy to paint, as you say.
DeleteGreat job as always Jonathan. I must say I love the mix of colours and the excellent animation on the crews, that make each base a joy to behold.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Steve! This was a fun batch of figures to drag across the painting desk.
DeleteExcellent work as always 12 months for painting but when do they get to fire ? I do look forward to an ECW project in the future
ReplyDeleteMatt, the collection was last out on the table last winter so, perhaps, we can see repeat when the weather sours later in 2020?
DeleteI look forward to seeing your ECW project as well!
Fabulous - really good. 12 months is nothing...
ReplyDeleteYou are most kind, Tony! Twelve months IS nothing when it comes to measuring project duration.
DeleteExcellent artillery and crew Jonathan! Bit of extra firepower can be handy.
ReplyDeleteGlad you approve, Mike! Rarely does a commander turn down a few additional artillery pieces.
DeleteLovely looking quartet of cannons! They look splendid and good looking crew,so now onto the WOTR?!
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Thanks, Iain! I have so many projects on the go, do I REALLY have the bandwidth for another project? With Italian Wars already on the table, what additional fun does the WotR offer for the prospective gamer?
DeleteAll jokes to one side, the WOTR is a much more late medieval conflict than the Italian wars when so many new technologies and strategies came in and revolutionized warfare. If you already have a late medieval collection there is no need but it's an interesting period of back stabbing and betrayal and colourful armies that aren't that big, I always think of the conflict as two criminal mob gangs trying to work out who was going to run England, violent psychopaths with posh names! My interest was piqued I guess by growing up and later walking the dog in Barnet which is one of the major battles.
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Thanks, Iain! Gang warfare in Medieval England, I like that! Who wouldn’t enjoy backstabbing, betrayal, and colorful armies? Sounds like a perfect setting for an interesting campaign game.
DeleteVery nice work Jonathon. I am slightly surprised the Bicorne matched the Redoubt figures in size - I have one small collection of redoubt figures - Wellington in India - and they are MASSIVE compared with most of my 25/28mm armies - although Bicorne and Renegade ARE pretty chunky too, so I guess I can see they might be closer to Redoubt that OG or Foundry/Perry would be.....
ReplyDeleteMuch appreciated, Keith! I rechecked the size of the Bicorne artillerymen compared against the Redoubt artillerymen. Bicorne may be a tiny bit smaller on some figures bur in the whole, they match up very well. Bicorne are much closer to Renegade/Redoubt in size than the smallish Old Glory/Foundry/Perry figures. My project went toward the BIG manufacturers.
DeleteThe bicorne figure designer went on to become the renegade figure designer I believe, which is why they are compatible.
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Oh, that is good info, Iain!
DeleteLovely work all around on these gunners and their pieces, Jonathan!
ReplyDeleteThank you, Steve! Any sight of "Fields of Honor" in your mailbox?
DeleteIn fact it just arrived today! I'm giving the rules a read over now.
DeleteSplendid!
DeleteSplendid set of guns Jonathan.
ReplyDeleteThanks!
DeleteGreat painting Jonathan and what fantastic model guns.
ReplyDeleteThank you! The Old Glory gun models are quite nice ones.
DeleteSplendid guns. The models have great Details. Very nice officer too.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Andre'!
DeleteVery nice work- the crews look excellent.
ReplyDeleteGlad you like them! Now, I need to get my collection out for a battle. Maybe later in the year?
DeleteWonderful cannon and crew, Jonathan. Your diverse and varied periods of interest never cease to amaze me!
ReplyDeleteThank you, Dean! You are right, I have too many interests...
DeleteThey are very nice Jonathan.
ReplyDeleteThanks!
DeleteA fine addition Jonathan. Yes, it's not often that you need more than two artillery pieces per side, but it is nice to know you have them there for when you need them.
ReplyDeleteThanks! What would you have done with these four extra guns? Paint them or trade them?
DeleteMy ECW collection has been adding Foot and Horse units the past few years due to FK&P, but I still have the same 4 Artillery pieces a side (1 light, 2 Medium, 1 heavy) per side that I started with back in the 1970's. Those Renegade crew figures look nice, though...
ReplyDeleteI would enjoy getting FK&P on my gaming table. We will see how it goes this fall and whether we can accommodate indoor multiplayer gaming.
DeleteRenegade is unfortunately either out of business or on extended hiatus. these crew are from Bicorne. I have more foote regiment of Renegade to paint. Since it may be the last I ever see, I may savor their painting.
Nice looking models. You have a very wide range of periods and theatres Jon. All very well done.
ReplyDeleteThanks! Some may think more periods and theatres than makes good sense!
DeleteGreat work Jonathan!
ReplyDeleteThanks!
DeleteSplendid work!! Great colors. I love those cannons :)
ReplyDeleteThank you! Just looking at your latest 54mm British paras. Fantastic painting!
DeleteThank you sir :)
DeleteNow we need a glam shot of the whole "done and dusted, no really I mean it this time" collection ;)
ReplyDeleteYou do not know what you ask, my friend! Which first, ECW, Italian Wars, or something else?
DeleteGreat looking cannons. I’m not super familiar with the ECW other than it was a thing that happened but I really like the look you have achieved for the early artillery. 😀
ReplyDeleteWhen you say you ‘discovered’ something in the Lead Pile, my over active imagination sometimes pictures you being shoulder deep in this huge mountain of blisters and pulling out a handful. “Oh, guess I’ll be painting these this week.” How far off am I? 🙃
Thanks, Stew! As for discovery in The Lead Pile, you are not far off at all. If you want to go off on an archaeological dig, let me know and I can book it. It won’t match a discovery at Machu Picchu but may be almost as fun.
DeleteLovely looking artillery Jonathan...
ReplyDeleteProving as we all know... nothing is ever finished...😁
All the best Aly
Thank you, Aly! Even when we think it is finished, it is not.
DeleteWonderful looking artillery pieces and crews with lots of colour.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Peter!
DeleteArtillery always looks good, nice pieces.
ReplyDeleteThanks!
DeleteGreat to see some ECW on your blog once again Jonathan. They do really look mighty fine.
ReplyDeleteThanks a lot, Ray! Not much more ECW in The Lead Pile.
DeleteLovely work Jonathan. I love the colour and variety in these pieces, the fact that no three gunners are wearing the same thing, makes for a lot of charm and character. The officers are particularly nice. Seeing well done ECW figures always makes me wonder why I never got into this period, but other than watching the movie Cromwell umpteen times, I don't know much about it. Bravo.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Michael! If the period is of interest, I say, go for it!
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