tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post7766752032189795528..comments2024-03-28T14:43:42.122-07:00Comments on Palouse Wargaming Journal: Battle of Telamon, 225 BC with TtS!Jonathan Freitaghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-26082010735398886462019-06-01T06:41:21.523-07:002019-06-01T06:41:21.523-07:00Thanks, Simon! Glad you stumbled upon it!Thanks, Simon! Glad you stumbled upon it!Jonathan Freitaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-20974878810497363562019-06-01T00:38:41.023-07:002019-06-01T00:38:41.023-07:00Wow what an interesting game, Jonathan! Very dynam...Wow what an interesting game, Jonathan! Very dynamic. Only just stumbled across it- on a French Forum, of all places. Best, SimonBigRedBathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05622983082204451158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-9504216548519537892019-02-01T10:46:44.465-08:002019-02-01T10:46:44.465-08:00I look forward to giving these rules more time at ...I look forward to giving these rules more time at the gaming table and would certainly enjoy seeing our Biblicals in action again.<br /><br />Looking forward to your small-scale experimentation.Jonathan Freitaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-52876102547250106982019-02-01T09:40:22.754-08:002019-02-01T09:40:22.754-08:00Interesting looking game. I am still interested i...Interesting looking game. I am still interested in trying these rules out some more. I am thinking of doing a small table top boardgame and using my 6mm ancients rather than the big stands to see how it plays in the dining room.Dartfroghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01786991975241723198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-90083219286396292812019-01-29T07:02:23.200-08:002019-01-29T07:02:23.200-08:00Yes, it is always a pleasure to play with Scott...Yes, it is always a pleasure to play with Scott's finely painted toys.<br /><br />We discussed the use of the "Even Stronger" rules and the line exchange, rearming and disorder removal but I don't recall it ever being put into practice during the game. That may have helped the Roman legions but as you say, not when struck in flank!Jonathan Freitaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-89863925486183431832019-01-28T20:25:40.027-08:002019-01-28T20:25:40.027-08:00Scott's Gauls are awesome! For a TTS! Polybian...Scott's Gauls are awesome! For a TTS! Polybian army, their Cavalry arm is a weak point, and it seems you got far more out of your Gallic horsemen than the Romans did of theirs. The modified rules in "Even Stronger (free) are really a necessity for the Polybian army; they were too weak in the original version, which had the Heavy Infantry as a bunch of small units. The Rally and exchange rule allows not only the recovery of disorder, but rearming of the Pila and an upgrade in Morale Save by 1 point. Of course, if they are hit in the flank and destroyed, none of that will help a bit! :-)Gonsalvohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16531623280789478092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-41522853321676749822019-01-28T19:42:18.208-08:002019-01-28T19:42:18.208-08:00Very impressive win for the Gauls!Very impressive win for the Gauls!Jonathan Freitaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-49313970261379419702019-01-28T18:55:51.355-08:002019-01-28T18:55:51.355-08:00Impressive result by the Gauls, and another fine l...Impressive result by the Gauls, and another fine looking game!<br /><br />Cheers,<br />AaronPrufrockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17659918463589870423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-6691267258567508882019-01-28T16:54:52.107-08:002019-01-28T16:54:52.107-08:00Hi Bill!
Lots of twits and turns, for sure. He f...Hi Bill!<br /><br />Lots of twits and turns, for sure. He few games we played are fun.<br /><br />As for Romam line relief, we discussed this process prior to the battle but I do not recall the Romans actually employing such in the game. Perhaps that would have helped?Jonathan Freitaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-57945591164573465162019-01-28T16:03:25.425-08:002019-01-28T16:03:25.425-08:00Great looking table and figures! We've played...Great looking table and figures! We've played TtS about 10 times so I'm not expert but we find it to be a fun game with lots of twists and turns and it certainly has spectacle. <br /><br />How did you find the Polybian Roman line relieve rules as outlined in the Even Stronger supplement? William Stewarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03047911499131518952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-28828145918149482222019-01-28T12:35:58.401-08:002019-01-28T12:35:58.401-08:00As always it was good fun! Who said, "I hate...As always it was good fun! Who said, "I hate rules that try to screw me?" I will remember that line forever...Jonathan Freitaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-9699955438978431142019-01-28T07:35:34.087-08:002019-01-28T07:35:34.087-08:00Thanks for taking part, Jon! That was an enjoyabl...Thanks for taking part, Jon! That was an enjoyable game. My solo plays have been evenly split: three victories each for the Romans and the Gauls!Scott MacPheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06239377268695489971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-49976405032981270522019-01-27T20:19:01.092-08:002019-01-27T20:19:01.092-08:00Thanks, Dean. Give TtS! a try sometime and let me...Thanks, Dean. Give TtS! a try sometime and let me know what you think about it. <br /><br />Good luck in your upcoming move.Jonathan Freitaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-89001978931100760292019-01-27T16:55:32.572-08:002019-01-27T16:55:32.572-08:00An excellent historical battle with marvelous troo...An excellent historical battle with marvelous troops, Jonathan! I've yet to try out TtS, but there are a few locals who like them.DeanMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07724268555970663130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-21227903338710808582019-01-27T12:23:40.224-08:002019-01-27T12:23:40.224-08:00Stew, your explanation makes perfect sense and I r...Stew, your explanation makes perfect sense and I really appreciate your effort in tapping this out with thumbs on an iPhone! That skill is way beyond me! Jonathan Freitaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-58300882800111111372019-01-27T12:19:34.351-08:002019-01-27T12:19:34.351-08:00Ancients has the same problem as dark ages regardi...Ancients has the same problem as dark ages regarding no one really knows how the battle line or shieldwall worked. My personal opinion is that it behaved both ways: it certainly devolved into several smaller combats all across the line but the line also supported itself across its whole length. If the line was thinning in one place the men nearby would certainly file over to support before a breach happened. This filing over would act like a wave radiating out and down the line and eventually everyone would be distributed across the battle line. <br />In this way, unless a breach happened very quickly like a puncture, eventually one side or the other would be ground down to the point where the line would be at it’s breaking point every where, and then collapse at once. <br />The complete collapse is hard to model for wargaming bc it leans more toward isolated combats where on part of the line breaks but other parts are more stable. <br />Hope that all made sense. It was a lot to type with thumbs on an iPhone. 😀Stewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00340930167419307092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-76628966622639367472019-01-27T12:18:59.031-08:002019-01-27T12:18:59.031-08:00You know how to pick a winner!
Grid-based games m...You know how to pick a winner!<br /><br />Grid-based games make a lot of things more clear while speeding up play.Jonathan Freitaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-84962236903866123112019-01-27T12:00:10.773-08:002019-01-27T12:00:10.773-08:00I was rooting for the Guals the whole time. 😀
I ...I was rooting for the Guals the whole time. 😀<br />I think using a grid based movement system would really help with scenarios that use flank attacks: just more clear on who is where. Stewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00340930167419307092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-5869600033840894722019-01-27T11:47:42.662-08:002019-01-27T11:47:42.662-08:00This is Scott's (http://macpheesminiaturemen.b...This is Scott's (http://macpheesminiaturemen.blogspot.com/) table and troops. He gets the credit for hosting a fun and visually pleasing game.Jonathan Freitaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-36518974692963882102019-01-27T10:40:21.457-08:002019-01-27T10:40:21.457-08:00A fine looking game Jonathan!
ChristopherA fine looking game Jonathan!<br /><br />ChristopherChristopher(aka Axebreaker)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13205928451375232865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-91719164397839889762019-01-27T07:28:18.659-08:002019-01-27T07:28:18.659-08:00Thanks, Mike! The Gallic victory was an unexpecte...Thanks, Mike! The Gallic victory was an unexpected outcome.Jonathan Freitaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-60879762932707451152019-01-27T05:24:59.094-08:002019-01-27T05:24:59.094-08:00Great minis and AAR Jonathan. And a big well done ...Great minis and AAR Jonathan. And a big well done - pulling off a victory in those circumstances is no mean feat, especially against Romans.Mike Vellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01220933613292414697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-46517092240830074592019-01-27T04:21:46.771-08:002019-01-27T04:21:46.771-08:00Thanks, Michal!Thanks, Michal!Jonathan Freitaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-35931896205703367202019-01-27T04:20:48.381-08:002019-01-27T04:20:48.381-08:00I was pleasantly surprised too!I was pleasantly surprised too!Jonathan Freitaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2267180105171392028.post-62290491620764254322019-01-27T04:19:43.846-08:002019-01-27T04:19:43.846-08:00Iain, given the historical outcome, this result wa...Iain, given the historical outcome, this result was a welcome surprise since I was commanding one of the Gallic formations. The Romans were not superhuman in this outing. History is greatly influenced by Caesar. He was a great propagandist.Jonathan Freitaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.com