Wednesday, February 28, 2018

Regret to Inform...

Rejection Email from BGG
Your User Submission Declined.

Such harsh words!

I am a frequent visitor to BoardGameGeek to satisfy all types of boardgaming queries.  With few entries for the DTP game, Montcalm & Wolfe for which I am journaling a campaign game, I figured an account of a gaming session would be of interest to the community.  Wrong!

As seen from the terse reply, the reasons for rejection were due to three factors.  Those factors were:
  • 40% Poor Structure
  • 20% Irrelevant
  • 40% Spam
I wonder what data analytics' algorithm settled on those criteria and percentages for rejection?  How could a game replay of the game, itself, be Irrelevant?  Does any entry containing a link qualify as Spam?  As for Poor Structure, well, I guess debating a topic as subjective as structure is pointless.  Sigh...

25 comments:

  1. BGG can be inconsistent. Try it under General. Or add a few photos, with an ‘if you want to know more...’ link.

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    1. Thanks for the suggestions. For a knowledge based site, adding freely to that KB should have low barriers to entry.

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  2. That's annoying! When I was an active member at BGG they had a moderation system, where reviews, reports etc were looked at by moderators (who could be any member who felt like doing some moderating - there were no special qualifications) before being accepted or rejected. There were criteria for rejection (irrelevant, blurry photo, spam, etc.), so I imagine you've run into a couple of zealous non-wargame moderators who don't understand what you are doing, have flagged it, and others, seeing it flagged, have gone with the flow.

    It happened to me a few times, usually for wargames, and usually for games when I was using figures rather than the original bits (Commands & Colors with miniatures, for example). Non-wargamers seem to be a bit suspicious of wargamers, and board wargamers seem to be particularly suspicious of miniatures gamers, for some reason. I'd make a cosmetic change or too (and possibly an introduction in italics explaining why you are posting a hybrid game) and then send it back in. You'll find some understanding mods at some point!

    Cheers, and good luck,
    Aaron

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    1. Aaron, I appreciate your suggestions, support, and background on your own, similar experiences with BBG.

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  3. My experience with BGG suggests what they really mean here:

    > Poor Structure = You didn't write it they way they would write it.
    > Irrelevant = They were not interested in the subject.
    > Spam = What they prefer for lunch.

    Screw 'em--your followers appreciate what you do!

    Best regards,

    Chris

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  4. You are lucky, at least all of your failings actually add up to 100%, my own failings have somehow managed to hit the 120% mark! which is somehow more remarkable than even my school report.

    I am guessing the single reason for the 'kiss it' reply is that you were likely giving a link to the outside world .... they don't seem to like that sir!

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  5. In a way it is encuraging though Jonathan because it proves that the brain is still superior to the machine!

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  6. It is irritating, but the whole idea of being given fail marks in this way is ridiculous, especially from a forum with the literary traditions and general silliness of the BGG. Even funnier if the scrutiny is carried out by a program.

    Perhaps you could try submitting your receipt from the supermarket, or an advertising flyer from a cellphone company, or your electricity bill? I'm sure they wouldn't be accepted, but if we can get more info on how the scoring works we could concoct a totally meaningless article which meets all the pass criteria.

    Now I think about it, BGG is already full of them, so that would be pointless.

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    1. Well said, Tony! As I read the rejection from BGG, the thought of your Donkey Awards entered my mind.

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  7. Pretty silly of them. I wonder how many great ideas pass them by like yours when they leave it up to a machine to decide.

    Christopher

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    1. I agree. If a site thrives on relevant content, one ought not block submissions containing relevant content. I guess mine did not pass muster.

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  8. I had a similar experience. After fuming for a few days I just posted to the relevant thread with a link to my article (it was about War Between The States). That worked.

    The submissions process (I'm guessing) is for something more formal and arcane.

    Boardgamegeek site is a very valuable resource, it is a pity they have this rejection process.

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    1. No fuming here. Surprised and puzzled, yes.

      It is a pity especially when an obscure game has little information or support on BGG.

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  9. I would of thought it a great resource. ☹️

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    1. If not a great resource, at least useful.

      Thanks for the comment, Stew!

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  10. This page gives a bit more info on how they do the modding: https://www.boardgamegeek.com/geekmod

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    1. Thanks for the link, Aaron! Seems the process of group moderation ought to be a useful screening tool until it isn't!

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  11. I cannot imagine why a site wouldn't want what was clearly relevant content. (20% Irrelevant?)
    40% Poor structure? Bah!
    40% Spam... because, I suppose you provide links to the two blogs involved rather than an endless post to the site.

    100% I wouldn't waste another moment's effort on them.

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    1. I am with you! No good deed goes unpunished.

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